Deal Dispute Deal Dispute on TheOlympus | UID 19531 | $2780

[CCGG]

Scammed By: @TheOlympus

Deal Date: November 15, 2025

Scammed Date: July 6, 2026

Deal Price (in USD): $2780

Incident Details:
Hello Admin Team, We have come to you with an extremely serious problem. This is a matter of grave importance that we have been enduring for nearly a year. On November 15, 2025, we assigned a project to Winter. The deal was set at $2,800, and the deadline was fixed for before December 2025. Winter took on this deal with full confidence. But gradually, we came to learn that Winter was not actually skilled in this field. Unfortunately, we failed to realize this at the time. Winter started his work — and missed his deadline. Then, much later, he delivered a website that was completely riddled with bugs — an absolute garbage website with silly mistakes. Because of this, we had to identify the issues ourselves and hand them over to him, and only then did he start working on them. This became a repeating pattern: he would do a little bit of work but never properly finish anything. Whatever work he did deliver turned out to be loaded with a pile of problems. We are exhausted from submitting bug report after bug report. Even after all of this, we continued to place our trust in him. By repeatedly trusting his work, he has now taken a total of $2,100 across 3–4 milestones. There are some things that must be said here. We have been the victims of scams multiple times. At one point, we needed a case box design, so we hired Artisan Graphics Design — recommended by Winter himself (The Olympus) — under a $180 contract. When they delivered the work, we received such a terrible, low-grade design that it did not match our quality standards in any way. When we said we would not accept this design, they simply forced it upon us and took the payment for that awful design anyway. After that, I fell victim to another scam — this time from a UI/UX designer named Heyzic (Also referred by Winter from The Olympus, NOTE: Winter is the owner of Olympus). His design was so poor and so blatantly AI-dependent that even after I reviewed it and sent it back for revision, hoping he could at least fix it, there was still no meaningful design. He produced a design using AI, walked away with $500, and I could do nothing about it. I had made an agreement in advance that if I did not like the work, I would not accept it. Heyzic had agreed to that contract as well. But what Olympus did was release the $180 to Heyzic first anyway. When I raised my voice and pointed out that my contract clearly stated I would not pay if the work was not to my satisfaction, only then was Olympus forced to step back from the decision of handing my money to Heyzic. But instead of refunding me, they transferred that money into Winter's funds — without my permission (Even though I later said I'm fine with it) Look, the situation is this: I pay my developer through a contract. And the moment the developer received 75% of his payment, we noticed that Winter's behavior completely changed. If you do not believe us, you can review our conversations — his earlier availability and manner of communication are simply not the same anymore. In any case, he is no longer available. When I message him, I get a reply a 1-2 days later just to answer a simple question or suggestion. This does not fall under any definition of professionalism. I have ongoing work matters with him that require communication. The website is already full of bugs, and on top of that, he is not even available. Even after that, I stayed quiet. On May 20, He himself gave me a deadline — and he missed that too by himself. Then, at the final stage, we realized that things would never work with Winter this way, so we hired a developer named Umar. But due to some issues on Umar's end, he withdrew on his own — we did not force him out. In any case, we then split and reduced Winter's workload, telling him: look, you do not have to do everything — just deliver the bare minimum so we can launch our beta version, so that we could at least move forward with something. We were already suffering heavy losses. For this, we even provided a separate, specific sheet just for the beta. We were told to shut the fuck up for 1 week because he would work on our project, and He would not even listen to "issues" we say until June 18, and guess what? He didn't give us shit on June 18 as well. We were forced to keep our mouths shut or else he said he don't want to work. Today is July 3rd. The last deadline I gave him was strictly after stripping everything and wanting the bare minimum to launch the beta and handover to a new developer. What we got is a shit website with tons of bugs, Obvious AI/Vibecoding stuff, and non-functional/brain-dead features. We were continuously gaslit with claims that "we are changing scope," when, for the most part, we were simply pointing out bugs — and obvious features that any platform like this requires. Either way, this should not take almost 8 months and still have this many issues. Winter portrays himself as extremely busy with our project, even as he has consistently served other clients and fulfilled their needs, completely ignoring ours. Not to forget, we were blamed whenever he could find something to pin on us to cover his own incompetence — absurd claims like "you didn't give us the graphics design, so the website doesn't work because of you." But it is basic common sense that the work could have been completed using any placeholder image of that size. We were kind and patient enough to treat him as well as possible, because in the end, it was never about anything other than the project itself. We never once withheld the 75% payment. If there were anything improper on our side, we would never have come this far. Yet even now, it is us who are suffering — and this is unjust. And we did negotiate on the timeline as well. Yes, we added some upgrades/extra features — but in return, we negotiated and extended the timing to compensate for that. Yet even after all of that, he missed deadlines — and he missed them continuously. We were also kind enough to accept his 2-day weekends, which in reality were more like 3–4 days (he would barely work on Thursday/Friday, go off to enjoy his weekend on Friday and Saturday, Sunday sometimes not even return until midday Monday, then work for 1–2 days before this entire cycle repeated again). The best proof of this nonsense is the sheer time he has taken on this project — almost 8 months, with non-functional AI-generated output scattered all over the place. We had to wait hours and sometimes days just to get a single answer or update from him. Imagine messaging him on his own working days and receiving a reply 24-30 hours later. He hired someone named Corvo for his work, solely for finding bugs. But I honestly do not know what this person even does — my own team seems to find more bugs than he does. It was Winter who hired this Corvo, although I was told $500 would be paid for him. If he had done his job properly, I would have had no objection. But I am not satisfied with his work. When we can clearly see Winter making silly mistakes, I fail to understand why his own assistant cannot see them. Corvo's contract covered the entire project. Now, if he walks away without completing even half of it, and demanding payment. how am I supposed to pay him in full — especially when he has barely contributed anything of substance? Why did we had to make 400+ bugs listing which took weeks and hours of hard work then? Also about that there's a lot of bugs he said he FIXED but DID NOT! HE MARKED THEM AS COMPLETE! I demand that this matter also be reviewed with fair and proper scrutiny. Admin team, I demand justice for this — a fair and proper resolution. Winter has simply held my project hostage. Today, he missed the beta deadline. How much longer can this go on? What about all of our losses? And after all this, he will hand over yet another worthless website full of bugs. I have already hired a developer to assist Winter, but Winter refuses to take him on. I even said stuff like he can work on separate stuff while winter works on others to finish the beta as soon as possible to speed things up. That developer is sitting idle while I continue paying him. When I told them, "the two of you work together and get this done fast," Winter is now unwilling — yet earlier, he himself said it would be better to have another person on board. So why won't he accept him now? I earnestly request that these matters be examined with the utmost seriousness. Since I have not received my work, I will not pay a single dollar of the remaining payment. My files must be properly handed over to me (Yes even after paying $2100 + $180 + $500, I don't have the file! Can you believe it? He even refuses to work in a GitHub repository where we are the owner so we can monitor his work LMAO). New Update: Yes He did not respond in friday, saturday, Sunday, I am kind of forced to open this deal dispute, and I received no file for the money I provided.

Scam Proof:
Will provide to admins if needed, As it contains sensitive information

 

[TheOlympus]

I want to start by saying I appreciate you taking the time to look into this. Honestly, I'm exhausted. I've been dealing with this for almost 8 months and I just want a fair resolution. I'm not here to twist anything. I'm going to give you the facts straight, and I'll back every single one up with evidence. Whatever the admin decides after reviewing everything, I will follow. I'm not here to fight. I'm here to be heard and to have the full picture seen.

I'm sending you the original CleanCase scope and files so you can see what I was actually hired to build. I'm also including a screenshot where PerfectLabel told me to copy EmpireDrop 1:1, the full chat history with nothing hidden or deleted, the complete updated source files so you can see the work yourself, the bug list they keep mentioning, and the separate Corvo spreadsheet that we were actively using to track progress during the EmpireDrop rebuild. I understand the chat logs will be long but I'm ready to provide everything and walk you through whatever is needed. Just ask and I'll point you to exactly what matters.

When this project began, I was genuinely excited. The original scope, CleanCase, was clear. I knew what I was building. I got to work, delivered milestone after milestone, and the client paid me $2,100 across four separate payments. Nobody forces themselves to pay someone for 8 months if the work is garbage. They reviewed, they approved, they paid. That alone should tell you something. Then the project changed completely. PerfectLabel sent me a message telling me to stop what I was doing and copy EmpireDrop instead. Not take inspiration. Not borrow ideas. Copy it 1:1. I have the screenshot and I'm sending it to you. This was not a small pivot. I had to tear apart the routing, rewrite core logic, and rebuild how everything flowed just to behave like a completely different platform. That's not a feature request. That's starting over. And honestly, that's the moment I lost control of this project. I was no longer building something. I was chasing someone else's product because the client demanded it. If the admin looks at the original CleanCase files and compares them to the updated ones I'm submitting, you'll see exactly what I mean. The work is there. The restructuring is there. The attempt to make it happen is there. I tried.

Here's something I need the admin to know. I saw this falling apart way before they opened this dispute. There were multiple times in our conversation where I made it clear that our working relationship just wasn't working. The way PerfectLabel operates and the way I work, they don't match. I was honest about that. I didn't ghost, I didn't vanish. I communicated. You can check the chat logs. I told them that this partnership wasn't healthy anymore and that it would be better for both of us to part ways. I wanted to step out cleanly, hand over what I had, and move on. But they kept pulling me back in. Every time I tried to draw a line, there was another promise, another adjusted deadline, another "just finish this one thing." That's also why I wasn't paid for the last phase. I didn't ask for more money because I was already trying to exit. I wasn't holding out for payment. I was trying to leave without things getting uglier than they already were. But leaving wasn't an option they gave me. They wanted to keep me locked in while simultaneously blaming me for everything wrong with a project they had already derailed.

Now, about those 400+ bugs. I'm providing the full bug sheet to the admin so you can review it yourself. But you need to understand the timeline here. That bug list was compiled during the original CleanCase phase. That version of the site is gone. Once the client demanded we pivot to copying EmpireDrop 1:1, the entire project was rebuilt. The old codebase, the old structure, the old bugs, none of it applies anymore because it's a fundamentally different platform now. The client is waving around a 400 item bug list for a version of the site that no longer exists, and they're using it to paint the current version as a disaster. That makes no sense. You cannot take bugs from a scrapped version of a project and use them as evidence that the current version is broken. The current version has its own challenges, which came directly from the EmpireDrop rebuild that they demanded. If the admin looks at the dates on that bug sheet and compares them to when the EmpireDrop instruction was given, you'll see exactly what I mean. The old bugs are irrelevant. They're from a project the client themselves chose to abandon.

On top of that, there is a separate Corvo spreadsheet that we used specifically during the EmpireDrop rebuild phase. That spreadsheet tracked what was actually being worked on, what was in progress, and what was pending for the new version. I'm submitting that too. Work didn't stop because I gave up. Work stopped because we reached a point where the client wanted a V1 beta launch but refused to provide the assets needed to make it beta worthy and not look like a straight up copy of EmpireDrop. I kept asking for those assets. You can check the chats. I told them repeatedly that we needed proper designs, proper assets, something original to work with so the beta wouldn't just be a clone. But they delayed. They dragged their feet. And then they blamed me for the delay. How am I supposed to deliver a beta that looks professional and original when the client won't give me the materials to make it happen? They wanted it fast, they wanted it to look good, they wanted it to not look like a copy, but they wouldn't do their part to enable that. That's not on me.

Let me address the Corvo situation directly because the client made a lot of noise about him. Corvo was hired as a bug tester for the EmpireDrop rebuild. His role was to find issues, log them, and track them in the new version of the project. And he did exactly that. The separate tracking spreadsheet I'm submitting? Corvo was actively contributing to it. You cannot claim he did nothing while simultaneously pointing to a tracker he helped maintain. The client says their own team found more bugs. That doesn't mean Corvo wasn't working. It means multiple people were testing. That's normal. More eyes catch more things. That's actually a sign the process was functioning, not failing. Now, about his payment. Corvo has not been paid a single cent ever since he started. Not one payment. So the client complaining about Corvo demanding payment is completely false. There is no payment to dispute because Corvo was never paid anything to begin with. On top of that, Corvo's contract is between the client and Corvo. I did not personally guarantee his performance, and I am not his employer. If the client is dissatisfied with Corvo's work, that's a conversation they need to have with Corvo. Dragging his payment into a dispute about my development work makes no sense. These are two separate things. And let's be honest, how was Corvo supposed to complete bug testing for the entire project when the project itself kept changing and the client wouldn't even provide the assets needed to reach a beta state? The EmpireDrop pivot rewrote half the platform. Scope kept creeping. Features kept getting added. Assets were withheld. You cannot expect a tester to sign off on a finished product when the product was never allowed to be finished, especially when the tester hasn't even been paid. Corvo did his job. I did mine. The project fell apart because of scope changes the client initiated and delays the client caused, not because of the people trying to build and test it.

They're saying they got nothing for their money. That's simply not true. They had access to review, test, and file feedback. That's how they even have bug lists and tracking spreadsheets in the first place. I'm submitting the full source files. You can see what's there. I didn't hand over final ownership because final payment never came, and honestly, by the end, I wasn't even chasing payment anymore. I just wanted out. That's standard practice anyway. Most freelancers protect themselves this way. What was I supposed to do? Hand over everything while being blamed for problems I didn't create and delays they caused?

About the third party stuff, they brought up Artisan Graphics and Heyzic. Those were their hires, their contracts. I didn't force anyone on them. And honestly, regarding the $180, PerfectLabel literally says in their own complaint "I later said I'm fine with it." They admitted they consented. Now they're painting it like I stole something.

Now let me address the communication and deadlines. Yes, I became less responsive over time. I'll own that. But you need to understand why. Every conversation became an argument. Every update came with a new list of demands. I was told to "shut the fuck up." Their words, not mine. I was told if I didn't like something I could leave. I was blamed for things that had nothing to do with me. So yes, I set boundaries. I told them I needed focused time to actually work instead of spending my days in endless back and forth. That's not unprofessional. That's what you do when a project becomes unworkable and the client refuses to let you walk away. And the weekends? They agreed to my schedule. Now they're retroactively acting like it was a problem. They can't have it both ways.

I also want to address something they've been throwing around. They're sending screenshots of my vouches showing me doing graphics work for other clients, trying to paint it like I was ignoring their project to work on other things. Let me be clear about this. Those are from the past weeks and days when they had already stopped paying me. Of course I took on other work. I have bills to pay. I have a life to live. I did my development work for them, and when the payments stopped coming, I had to juggle other jobs just to keep the ends meeting. What did they expect? That I would just sit around and wait for them indefinitely like I'm some sort of slave? I am a freelancer. When a client stops paying, I have to find other income to survive. That's not me being unprofessional. That's me being a human being with responsibilities. They don't get to withhold payment and then complain that I found other ways to support myself. The admin can check the timeline. The other work came after the payments dried up. Not before.

One last thing about their history. PerfectLabel has been through multiple agencies before me. Every time, the story is the same. The last developer was incompetent, a scammer, didn't deliver. I'm not the first person they've said this about, and I probably won't be the last. I'm just asking the admin to think about that pattern for a moment.

Here's what I'm asking for. I'm not trying to run away with anyone's money. I worked. I delivered. I adapted when they demanded I copy a completely different platform. I tried to step away when I realized the relationship wasn't working, multiple times, and they wouldn't let me go. Corvo did his job during the EmpireDrop rebuild without ever being paid a single cent. The source files prove I worked. The milestone payments prove they accepted my work. The EmpireDrop screenshot proves where things went wrong. The 400 bug list is from the old CleanCase version that the client themselves abandoned, so it has nothing to do with the current state of the project. The separate Corvo spreadsheet proves we were tracking and making progress on the rebuild until the client's own delays on providing assets stopped us from reaching a beta state. The chat logs will prove I communicated my desire to exit long before this dispute and that I repeatedly asked for assets they never delivered.

One quick note. I took down the test development site. They don't know it yet, but I did it to protect our work. Since this dispute is now open and being reviewed, I need to safeguard what I built over 8 months. I'm not hiding anything. The source files are here and I'm submitting them willingly. Whatever the admin decides regarding access, handover, or anything else, I will follow. If you tell me to put it back up, I'll put it back up. If you tell me to hand everything over, I'll hand everything over. I just need the process to be fair.

I'm ready to provide whatever the admin needs. That includes all of our private conversations, the group chats, and the complete source files from the very beginning, starting from when they first sent me the project, through the CleanCase phase, all the way to the EmpireDrop copy which is DASHED. The chats are long but I'll walk you through everything. Just tell me what you need and I'll point you to the relevant parts. Whatever you decide, I'll follow. I just want a fair review and a clean exit.

Thank you for your time

 

[CCGG]

I want to start by saying I appreciate you taking the time to look into this. Honestly, I'm exhausted. I've been dealing with this for almost 8 months and I just want a fair resolution. I'm not here to twist anything. I'm going to give you the facts straight, and I'll back every single one up with evidence. Whatever the admin decides after reviewing everything, I will follow. I'm not here to fight. I'm here to be heard and to have the full picture seen.

I'm sending you the original CleanCase scope and files so you can see what I was actually hired to build. I'm also including a screenshot where PerfectLabel told me to copy EmpireDrop 1:1, the full chat history with nothing hidden or deleted, the complete updated source files so you can see the work yourself, the bug list they keep mentioning, and the separate Corvo spreadsheet that we were actively using to track progress during the EmpireDrop rebuild. I understand the chat logs will be long but I'm ready to provide everything and walk you through whatever is needed. Just ask and I'll point you to exactly what matters.

When this project began, I was genuinely excited. The original scope, CleanCase, was clear. I knew what I was building. I got to work, delivered milestone after milestone, and the client paid me $2,100 across four separate payments. Nobody forces themselves to pay someone for 8 months if the work is garbage. They reviewed, they approved, they paid. That alone should tell you something. Then the project changed completely. PerfectLabel sent me a message telling me to stop what I was doing and copy EmpireDrop instead. Not take inspiration. Not borrow ideas. Copy it 1:1. I have the screenshot and I'm sending it to you. This was not a small pivot. I had to tear apart the routing, rewrite core logic, and rebuild how everything flowed just to behave like a completely different platform. That's not a feature request. That's starting over. And honestly, that's the moment I lost control of this project. I was no longer building something. I was chasing someone else's product because the client demanded it. If the admin looks at the original CleanCase files and compares them to the updated ones I'm submitting, you'll see exactly what I mean. The work is there. The restructuring is there. The attempt to make it happen is there. I tried.

Here's something I need the admin to know. I saw this falling apart way before they opened this dispute. There were multiple times in our conversation where I made it clear that our working relationship just wasn't working. The way PerfectLabel operates and the way I work, they don't match. I was honest about that. I didn't ghost, I didn't vanish. I communicated. You can check the chat logs. I told them that this partnership wasn't healthy anymore and that it would be better for both of us to part ways. I wanted to step out cleanly, hand over what I had, and move on. But they kept pulling me back in. Every time I tried to draw a line, there was another promise, another adjusted deadline, another "just finish this one thing." That's also why I wasn't paid for the last phase. I didn't ask for more money because I was already trying to exit. I wasn't holding out for payment. I was trying to leave without things getting uglier than they already were. But leaving wasn't an option they gave me. They wanted to keep me locked in while simultaneously blaming me for everything wrong with a project they had already derailed.

Now, about those 400+ bugs. I'm providing the full bug sheet to the admin so you can review it yourself. But you need to understand the timeline here. That bug list was compiled during the original CleanCase phase. That version of the site is gone. Once the client demanded we pivot to copying EmpireDrop 1:1, the entire project was rebuilt. The old codebase, the old structure, the old bugs, none of it applies anymore because it's a fundamentally different platform now. The client is waving around a 400 item bug list for a version of the site that no longer exists, and they're using it to paint the current version as a disaster. That makes no sense. You cannot take bugs from a scrapped version of a project and use them as evidence that the current version is broken. The current version has its own challenges, which came directly from the EmpireDrop rebuild that they demanded. If the admin looks at the dates on that bug sheet and compares them to when the EmpireDrop instruction was given, you'll see exactly what I mean. The old bugs are irrelevant. They're from a project the client themselves chose to abandon.

On top of that, there is a separate Corvo spreadsheet that we used specifically during the EmpireDrop rebuild phase. That spreadsheet tracked what was actually being worked on, what was in progress, and what was pending for the new version. I'm submitting that too. Work didn't stop because I gave up. Work stopped because we reached a point where the client wanted a V1 beta launch but refused to provide the assets needed to make it beta worthy and not look like a straight up copy of EmpireDrop. I kept asking for those assets. You can check the chats. I told them repeatedly that we needed proper designs, proper assets, something original to work with so the beta wouldn't just be a clone. But they delayed. They dragged their feet. And then they blamed me for the delay. How am I supposed to deliver a beta that looks professional and original when the client won't give me the materials to make it happen? They wanted it fast, they wanted it to look good, they wanted it to not look like a copy, but they wouldn't do their part to enable that. That's not on me.

Let me address the Corvo situation directly because the client made a lot of noise about him. Corvo was hired as a bug tester for the EmpireDrop rebuild. His role was to find issues, log them, and track them in the new version of the project. And he did exactly that. The separate tracking spreadsheet I'm submitting? Corvo was actively contributing to it. You cannot claim he did nothing while simultaneously pointing to a tracker he helped maintain. The client says their own team found more bugs. That doesn't mean Corvo wasn't working. It means multiple people were testing. That's normal. More eyes catch more things. That's actually a sign the process was functioning, not failing. Now, about his payment. Corvo has not been paid a single cent ever since he started. Not one payment. So the client complaining about Corvo demanding payment is completely false. There is no payment to dispute because Corvo was never paid anything to begin with. On top of that, Corvo's contract is between the client and Corvo. I did not personally guarantee his performance, and I am not his employer. If the client is dissatisfied with Corvo's work, that's a conversation they need to have with Corvo. Dragging his payment into a dispute about my development work makes no sense. These are two separate things. And let's be honest, how was Corvo supposed to complete bug testing for the entire project when the project itself kept changing and the client wouldn't even provide the assets needed to reach a beta state? The EmpireDrop pivot rewrote half the platform. Scope kept creeping. Features kept getting added. Assets were withheld. You cannot expect a tester to sign off on a finished product when the product was never allowed to be finished, especially when the tester hasn't even been paid. Corvo did his job. I did mine. The project fell apart because of scope changes the client initiated and delays the client caused, not because of the people trying to build and test it.

They're saying they got nothing for their money. That's simply not true. They had access to review, test, and file feedback. That's how they even have bug lists and tracking spreadsheets in the first place. I'm submitting the full source files. You can see what's there. I didn't hand over final ownership because final payment never came, and honestly, by the end, I wasn't even chasing payment anymore. I just wanted out. That's standard practice anyway. Most freelancers protect themselves this way. What was I supposed to do? Hand over everything while being blamed for problems I didn't create and delays they caused?

About the third party stuff, they brought up Artisan Graphics and Heyzic. Those were their hires, their contracts. I didn't force anyone on them. And honestly, regarding the $180, PerfectLabel literally says in their own complaint "I later said I'm fine with it." They admitted they consented. Now they're painting it like I stole something.

Now let me address the communication and deadlines. Yes, I became less responsive over time. I'll own that. But you need to understand why. Every conversation became an argument. Every update came with a new list of demands. I was told to "shut the fuck up." Their words, not mine. I was told if I didn't like something I could leave. I was blamed for things that had nothing to do with me. So yes, I set boundaries. I told them I needed focused time to actually work instead of spending my days in endless back and forth. That's not unprofessional. That's what you do when a project becomes unworkable and the client refuses to let you walk away. And the weekends? They agreed to my schedule. Now they're retroactively acting like it was a problem. They can't have it both ways.

I also want to address something they've been throwing around. They're sending screenshots of my vouches showing me doing graphics work for other clients, trying to paint it like I was ignoring their project to work on other things. Let me be clear about this. Those are from the past weeks and days when they had already stopped paying me. Of course I took on other work. I have bills to pay. I have a life to live. I did my development work for them, and when the payments stopped coming, I had to juggle other jobs just to keep the ends meeting. What did they expect? That I would just sit around and wait for them indefinitely like I'm some sort of slave? I am a freelancer. When a client stops paying, I have to find other income to survive. That's not me being unprofessional. That's me being a human being with responsibilities. They don't get to withhold payment and then complain that I found other ways to support myself. The admin can check the timeline. The other work came after the payments dried up. Not before.

One last thing about their history. PerfectLabel has been through multiple agencies before me. Every time, the story is the same. The last developer was incompetent, a scammer, didn't deliver. I'm not the first person they've said this about, and I probably won't be the last. I'm just asking the admin to think about that pattern for a moment.

Here's what I'm asking for. I'm not trying to run away with anyone's money. I worked. I delivered. I adapted when they demanded I copy a completely different platform. I tried to step away when I realized the relationship wasn't working, multiple times, and they wouldn't let me go. Corvo did his job during the EmpireDrop rebuild without ever being paid a single cent. The source files prove I worked. The milestone payments prove they accepted my work. The EmpireDrop screenshot proves where things went wrong. The 400 bug list is from the old CleanCase version that the client themselves abandoned, so it has nothing to do with the current state of the project. The separate Corvo spreadsheet proves we were tracking and making progress on the rebuild until the client's own delays on providing assets stopped us from reaching a beta state. The chat logs will prove I communicated my desire to exit long before this dispute and that I repeatedly asked for assets they never delivered.

One quick note. I took down the test development site. They don't know it yet, but I did it to protect our work. Since this dispute is now open and being reviewed, I need to safeguard what I built over 8 months. I'm not hiding anything. The source files are here and I'm submitting them willingly. Whatever the admin decides regarding access, handover, or anything else, I will follow. If you tell me to put it back up, I'll put it back up. If you tell me to hand everything over, I'll hand everything over. I just need the process to be fair.

I'm ready to provide whatever the admin needs. That includes all of our private conversations, the group chats, and the complete source files from the very beginning, starting from when they first sent me the project, through the CleanCase phase, all the way to the EmpireDrop copy which is DASHED. The chats are long but I'll walk you through everything. Just tell me what you need and I'll point you to the relevant parts. Whatever you decide, I'll follow. I just want a fair review and a clean exit.

Thank you for your time

There was a reason I felt like we need to copy empiredrop's design, Because winter continuously gave bad designs with bugs.
At one point, If i pointed out that there is this bug or that bug, We would count it as me trying to change scope and
gaslight me. So after me having "Enough is enough, This person does not know how a platform like this works, Things are cut off
at laptop screen, The website doesn't work on mobile, We need a proper way to keep him accountable for the shit he is providing"

So we agreed on paying him extra money for the redesign Which was ($500 took from Heyzic's Dispute, Without my permission
which I did say in my previous message that I took their resolution as acceptable) Either way, HE WAS PAID THE AMOUNT HE WAS TOLD FOR THE REDESIGN, HE DID NOT WORK FOR FREE.

"They reviewed, They approved, They Paid"
- No, It was simply you completing 20% work (Take payment), 50% work (Take payment), and you left 80% of the work
on the small $700 last milestone. We trusted you considering you will finish it at last.

" I didn't ghost, I didn't vanish. I communicated. "
- You communicated once saying You want to handover the files to the new developer, Then When I got a new developer,
you refuse to hand over the files and Actually ghosted me, Vanished, and did not communicate for days which is why
I OPENED THIS DISPUTE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

"But leaving wasn't an option they gave me. They wanted to keep me locked in while simultaneously blaming me for everything wrong with a project they had already derailed."

We did, Screenshot: https://gyazo.com/a62e044ddf55bbc7cc9af73f9b52d6ea and you chose Option 1

Which is to at least give us the Minimum Not complete product

so we can move forward, We did not tell you that we want the money u took, We both knew
the product isn't 100% complete, So we came to an agreement, That we should just accept the 80% and handover.

"you need to understand the timeline here. That bug list was compiled during the original CleanCase phase. That version of the site is gone"
- While it was a redesign, Core function still struggled to work, Example: Admin panel was not redesigned and even now, It doesn't work properly (Example: Analytics, Region Blocking) Which was there before any redesign. Even after redesign, the past
issues still was there, "the old bugs, none of it applies anymore because it's a fundamentally different platform now. " No,
If a button did not work, It still did not work on the new redesign, it just changed it's skin, Not the functions, We did not change the platform, But changed it's skin. UI/UX IS NOT BACKEND!

Let me show you something: https://gyazo.com/4d7e4766560886bbe7a36c6bf5206d79
What do you think? This is the project that took 8 months? and still have shit issues like this?

"I told them repeatedly that we needed proper designs, proper assets, something original to work with so the beta wouldn't just be a clone."

- This was said when core functions was still struggling, Later blaming it on us in a way that is saying "OMG just cuz
you did not give us assets, Our Leaderboard functions doesn't work"

"How am I supposed to deliver a beta that looks professional and original when the client won't give me the materials to make it happen?"
How are WE supposed to take a product that is not finished functionally and chase the assets more than the functions itself?

"They had access to review, test, and file feedback."
- Normally we get a GitHub access repo where the freelancer works so we can monitor the work + also own the work up to that
payment. That was not the case with winter because he never gave us or invited us to repo, Until I was angry for that
and he finally just uploaded 1 time, Not continuously. Which is basically not transparency at all, The updates he pushed,
We did not receive them, We just received a staging website's link, Not files or anything.

"Hand over everything while being blamed for problems I didn't create and delays they caused?"
- We still want the files, As is, Please upload the website so the admins can see what you created so far, If admins agree
it's worth it for the final payment, I will pay that, But It is common sense that this is 3/4 finished website, Thus
you will mostly get 3/4 of the payment. I am being as fair as possible.

"I later said I'm fine with it."
- yes, But it was unprofessional for not just heading with a refund and straight coming to conclusion to
take the money yourself, At LEAST you COULD HAVE ASKED IS WHAT I AM SAYING!

"They agreed to my schedule." The schedule was Saturday/Sunday Weekends, Not Thursday half work, Friday Weekend, Saturday sunday weekend, Monday half day weekend. If admins track the patterm of his messages/Replies in the chat history, They can see it themselves, This was an ongoing pattern.

"What did they expect? That I would just sit around and wait for them indefinitely like I'm some sort of slave? "
- No something like that sounds awful. ALSO HE DID NOT HIMSELF ASK FOR MORE PAYMENT AND BLAMING IT ON US FOR NOT PAYING? We just wanted our product which we have been waiting for 8 months. If it was complete,
You could just take on other job and take the payment we owe you.

Admins, Try to see a pattern, He worked great for 3/4th of the payment, Then when it's just $700, He went full quiet and started taking other work ignoring our project. You can see he took more time to finish the last part, than the 3 part of the
project, Ask yourselves, Why?



" They don't know it yet, but I did it to protect our work." This is scummy, Just show everyone how the website looks to this
point, If admins say that this is a sign of a good developer that worked 8 months, Well, Let them be the judge.


My Final Resolution about this:

Look, I don't have any personal beef with you. I just want my project. If you cannot work on it
any further, Then just hand over the files on whatever you worked on so far, that's what I have been telling you for these past
few days. Just hand the files over so you can exit and I can move forward. You provided 75% work, You got paid 75%. Now just give us the 75% so we can end this. I don't want my money back, I wasted way too long for this, I just want the files. If admin
decides this project is complete and whatever we both agreed on, I can pay the last milestone, But I am sure it's not complete cuz I reviewed it.

 

[Akh]

Too much AI slop here with no evidence/screenshots.

If you got paid 75% and completed 75%~, why don't you deliver the source of what's already been done and move on? @TheOlympus

 

[TheOlympus]

Too much AI slop here with no evidence/screenshots.

If you got paid 75% and completed 75%~, why don't you deliver the source of what's already been done and move on? @TheOlympus

I'm ready to provide all the evidence needed. I've already exported our full message history. I'd prefer not to post it publicly here since this dispute extends beyond this site. Please let me know where I can send everything directly to the admin. I want to resolve this cleanly and properly. I think that's how the dispute goes, I should reply to what he was saying, right? I've only responded to what he said, and I don't believe there's anything wrong with that.

Also, regarding the comment about getting paid 75% and completing around 75%, it's not that simple. Believe me, I really wanted to do that. I know it's that simple and I'm ready to do that, to be honest. I would have just delivered the source of what's already done and moved on if I could, but they don't stop there. They keep asking me to do this and to do that. I'll just wait also for the other sites where disputes are open. If that's your decision here, I'll do that, but there might be a delay prior to this since there are other disputes opened on other sites.

@Akh let me know where you want me to send the conversations

about his reply here they said the EmpireDrop pivot happened because my work was bad and full of bugs. But then they admitted they paid me an extra $500 for that redesign. Think about that. If I was truly incompetent, why would they pay me more money to do more work? You don't reward bad work with additional paid scope. They made a business decision to pivot, they compensated me for it, and now they regret that decision and are blaming me for it. The $500 from the Heyzic dispute that they keep bringing up, they literally said in their own words "I later said I'm fine with it." They admitted they accepted the resolution. You cannot consent to something and then months later paint it as theft. And regardless of where the money came from, the point stands. I was paid for the redesign. I did not work for free. They asked for a new direction, they paid for it, and I delivered work toward it.

They said "they reviewed, they approved, they paid" is false because I took most of the money early and left too much work for the last $700. But milestone payments are tied to deliverables, not percentages. They approved each milestone. They released each payment. If the payment structure was front loaded, they agreed to that schedule when the contract started. They can't now retroactively claim the earlier work was only worth 20% when they willingly paid those milestones. And if the remaining work was truly 80% of the project as they claim, why was the final milestone only 25% of the total payment? Their math doesn't add up. They're essentially saying they made a bad deal. That's not the same as me scamming them.

They said I communicated once about handing over files and then ghosted when they got a new developer. That's not true and I have proof. I never agreed to work alongside a new developer while the beta was still incomplete. That wouldn't make sense. The beta wasn't done because they were missing a lot of things that they needed to provide. Bringing in a new developer at that stage wouldn't speed anything up. It would just create more chaos. They got mad at me for not agreeing to something I never agreed to in the first place. The chat logs will show the actual conversation, not their version of it. And about ghosting, let's be honest. Who would have the energy to keep replying to PerfectLabel? The admin can read the chats. You'll see the tone. You'll see the hostility. You'll see how every conversation became an argument. I wasn't ghosting. I was exhausted. I had already told them multiple times that the relationship wasn't working and I wanted to leave. They wouldn't accept it. At some point, constantly replying to someone who refuses to hear you becomes pointless. That's not ghosting. That's protecting your own mental health after months of being blamed for problems you didn't create. And they opened the dispute because I didn't respond for a few days. Days. Not weeks. Not months. Days. During an escalating conflict where I was trying to figure out how to handle a hostile situation. That's not ghosting. That's being careful.

They showed a screenshot where I chose Option 1, which was to deliver the minimum and hand over. Yes, I agreed to that. But handover happens when the dispute is resolved and terms are clear, not in the middle of a heated conflict where I'm being accused of scamming them. No developer hands over complete source files before final payment is settled. That's standard practice. They also admitted the product wasn't 100% complete. So they know the work isn't finished. They're asking for the files as is, which I'm willing to provide if the admin decides that's the fair resolution. I've said from the beginning that whatever the admin decides, I will follow.

They said the 400 bug list still applies because only the skin changed, not the backend. But they also said the redesign was so significant they paid $500 extra for it. Which is it? A minor reskin or a major paid redesign? They can't have it both ways. If it was truly just a UI/UX change with no backend work, then the $500 redesign fee makes no sense. Why pay extra for just a skin? The truth is the EmpireDrop pivot did require backend changes because EmpireDrop functions differently. I had to reroute and recode to match their behavior. They're now minimizing the scope of the pivot to make me look worse. And yes, some core issues may have persisted across both versions. But the 400 item list they originally compiled was for a different version of the platform. They can't take a list made for CleanCase and apply every single item to the EmpireDrop version without acknowledging that many of those items became irrelevant or were superseded by the rebuild. They also showed a screenshot of an issue. Every development project in progress has visual bugs. That's why it's called development and not a finished product.

They said I blamed missing assets for broken functions. That's not what happened. I asked for assets to make the beta presentable and not look like a straight up clone. That's a separate conversation from core functionality. They're twisting it to sound like I said "leaderboard doesn't work because you didn't give me images." That's not true and the chat logs will show the context. I was working on core functions. I was also asking for assets so the beta could look professional. These are two separate things and they're deliberately conflating them.

They said I never gave GitHub access and there was no transparency. They had a staging site where they could review, test, and file feedback. That's how they compiled bug lists and tracking spreadsheets. They had visibility into the work. They just didn't have ownership of the repository, which is entirely normal before final delivery. Repository ownership comes with final payment, which never happened because the project never finished and payment was never completed. And the fact that they had to get angry for me to upload once tells a different story too. It shows the working relationship was hostile and I was reluctant to engage because every interaction turned into a conflict.

They said my weekends were Thursday half work, Friday off, Saturday Sunday off, Monday half day. By the end of this project, I was burned out and trying to exit. They admitted the relationship wasn't working. They admitted I communicated my desire to leave multiple times. When a project becomes toxic and the client refuses to let you leave, your availability suffers. That's not a pattern of laziness. That's a pattern of someone who has checked out because the working relationship is broken. You can't expect full enthusiasm and availability from someone you've forced to stay against their will.

They said I worked great for 75% of the payment and then went quiet when only $700 was left. They asked the admin to ask why. I'll tell you why. The last part was after the EmpireDrop pivot. The last part was after months of scope changes. The last part was after they refused to provide assets. The last part was after I had already tried to exit multiple times. The last part was when the relationship had completely broken down. Of course it took longer. Not because the remaining money was small, but because the working conditions had become impossible. And regarding other work, I took on other jobs because they weren't paying me for the last phase and I have bills to pay. I have a life to live. I'm a freelancer, not a slave. They don't get to withhold payment and then complain that I found other ways to support myself. The admin can check the timeline. The other work came after the payments dried up. Not before.

They said taking down the test site is scummy and they want everyone to see the website. I've already said I'll put it back up the moment the admin tells me to. I'm not hiding anything. The source files are submitted. I took it down because this dispute is now open and I need to protect work that took 8 months of my life while this is being reviewed. If the admin says put it back up, I'll put it back up. If the admin says hand everything over, I'll hand everything over. I'm not refusing. I'm being cautious while the dispute is resolved.

About the $180 from Heyzic, they admitted they accepted the resolution. They said "I later said I'm fine with it." You cannot consent to something and then months later bring it up in a dispute like it was stolen from you. If they had an issue with how it was handled, they should have raised it then, not now. They're digging for anything they can use.

They said they just want the files and they'll pay if the admin says the work is worth it. I've said from the beginning that whatever the admin decides, I will follow. If the admin says hand over the files, I will. If the admin says the work is worth the final payment, I accept that. If the admin says something else entirely, I'll follow that too. I'm not the one complicating this. I just want a fair process and a clean exit.

One last thing. They said they would not have opened a dispute if I didn't do this. But the truth is they opened this dispute because I stopped responding for a few days after months of hostility, scope changes, and trying to leave. The admin can read the chats. You'll see who was unprofessional. You'll see the tone. You'll see how they spoke to me. And you'll see that I kept working, kept delivering, and kept trying to find a way out long before this dispute ever started.

I'm ready to provide whatever the admin needs. That includes all of our private conversations, the group chats, and the complete source files from the very beginning, starting from when they first sent me the project, through the CleanCase phase, all the way to the EmpireDrop copy which is DASHED. The chats are long but I'll walk you through everything. Just tell me what you need and I'll point you to the relevant parts. Whatever you decide, I'll follow. I just want a fair review and a clean exit